I have learned that there are several ways of storing donor corneas before they are sewn on
The European way differs from the American way, which seems to give some differences in the time the new cornea uses to adapt to its new eye. My recent graft is a result of using American donor material, and the hospital´s opinion is that these corneas are stored differently so the period of post op. foggy sight may last longer than if the material had been European. However, they stress the fact that American donor corneas are safer in the way that they come with "enough living cells to survive guarantee".
Any of you with experiences on this? How long does it take for the cornea to clear up. As I remember from my other eye , it should not take much longer than 15-20 days. But then again, the donor material was different back then.
How long before the fog disappears....
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There are a few ways now to store Corneas...and the solutions / storing methods used depends on the eye bank in all honesty.
During my pre transplant stages I asked about these methods; and whilst I cant recall right now what they were stored in, I was told that the method used was the one which ensures a higher rate of endothelial cell count post-host removal....
I didnt have any fog as such post graft in all honesty........however I did develope some weeks later which cleared up.....however do bear in mind that the small fog is common if its a Full Penetrating Keratoplasty.....as the back layers seen to join and then heal
There are a few ways now to store Corneas...and the solutions / storing methods used depends on the eye bank in all honesty.
During my pre transplant stages I asked about these methods; and whilst I cant recall right now what they were stored in, I was told that the method used was the one which ensures a higher rate of endothelial cell count post-host removal....
I didnt have any fog as such post graft in all honesty........however I did develope some weeks later which cleared up.....however do bear in mind that the small fog is common if its a Full Penetrating Keratoplasty.....as the back layers seen to join and then heal
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Hello, jayuk.
Thank you for the response. It is now nearly four weeks post op and the progress is, in my eyes ( literally:) ) slow. I take prenincilon pills every morning, have done ever since the op. Started on 40 mg a day, less 5 mg every week. Now on 20. Spersadex Kloramfeninkol 8 times a day and prenincinol/kloramfeninkol oinment during the night. Is it usual to take so long time before the cornea to clear up? My surgeant is calming me down, telling me this may take some time. Which experiences do the rest of you reading this forum have ?
Thank you for the response. It is now nearly four weeks post op and the progress is, in my eyes ( literally:) ) slow. I take prenincilon pills every morning, have done ever since the op. Started on 40 mg a day, less 5 mg every week. Now on 20. Spersadex Kloramfeninkol 8 times a day and prenincinol/kloramfeninkol oinment during the night. Is it usual to take so long time before the cornea to clear up? My surgeant is calming me down, telling me this may take some time. Which experiences do the rest of you reading this forum have ?
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Hello there!
I know how stressful and worrying it is to us, but sadly the only thing here is time and patience. It's eight weeks since my graft, and in all honesty i don't see any difference either. Fog? i'm not too sure, as i could never see out of this eye anyway, so nothing has changed. Am just waiting to see what happens.
Hopefully next year will bring some good results for us all! Drop in and let us know how you're doing, and i guess keep taking the medication!!
Take care, Sweet X x X
I know how stressful and worrying it is to us, but sadly the only thing here is time and patience. It's eight weeks since my graft, and in all honesty i don't see any difference either. Fog? i'm not too sure, as i could never see out of this eye anyway, so nothing has changed. Am just waiting to see what happens.
Hopefully next year will bring some good results for us all! Drop in and let us know how you're doing, and i guess keep taking the medication!!
Take care, Sweet X x X
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When you stand close to a mirror and look at the grafted cornea...can you see anything? Is it clear?
Part of my checks on a daily basis are to look in the mirror, switch my mobile fone light on, and shine it at an angle....this basically allows me to see the graft, sutures and any things else.....
During the period where I did have some fogging, I kept a close tab on it and it was more to do with the rear of the graft healing that anything else.
I think something to bear in mind is that even with the graft most ppl will not be able to see clearly as the cornea is still distorted (in most cases).
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When you stand close to a mirror and look at the grafted cornea...can you see anything? Is it clear?
Part of my checks on a daily basis are to look in the mirror, switch my mobile fone light on, and shine it at an angle....this basically allows me to see the graft, sutures and any things else.....
During the period where I did have some fogging, I kept a close tab on it and it was more to do with the rear of the graft healing that anything else.
I think something to bear in mind is that even with the graft most ppl will not be able to see clearly as the cornea is still distorted (in most cases).
J
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Hi, again, Sweet and Jayuk
When I look into the mirror I see the grafted eye with the other eye and it looks clear. I do not see the stiches nor the thread. The sight is still foggy through the graft itself, though it seems a little better today. Gives me a better feeling to get encouragement from other people with KC.
Sweet, I think I see better than you because my eye was -20 and the KC-tip on the cornea was all white. Coult see practically nothing but the skin structure of my nose:) Now I see things even on large distances equally as things close to me. But it is rather dim. And evenenings are better the mornings, of course. Seems naturally since the cornea breaths during daytime, pumping out the liquid gathering there during the night. Donor-corneas are not as efficient in this process in the first weeks as "native born" ones, due to my surgeant. The growing process involving the back cells of the new cornea to adapt to the cells in your eye and the outer cells on the cornea surface to start "breathing", and give life to the cells in it, takes some time. Things allways fells better when explained rationally. And my surgeant did yesterday on the phone. It worked for Alois Gloger 100 years ago without antibiotics and all that. So I am thinking more positively about it now
Hope things clear up for you too soon, Sweet. Do you have KC on both eyes or only one ?
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When I look into the mirror I see the grafted eye with the other eye and it looks clear. I do not see the stiches nor the thread. The sight is still foggy through the graft itself, though it seems a little better today. Gives me a better feeling to get encouragement from other people with KC.
Sweet, I think I see better than you because my eye was -20 and the KC-tip on the cornea was all white. Coult see practically nothing but the skin structure of my nose:) Now I see things even on large distances equally as things close to me. But it is rather dim. And evenenings are better the mornings, of course. Seems naturally since the cornea breaths during daytime, pumping out the liquid gathering there during the night. Donor-corneas are not as efficient in this process in the first weeks as "native born" ones, due to my surgeant. The growing process involving the back cells of the new cornea to adapt to the cells in your eye and the outer cells on the cornea surface to start "breathing", and give life to the cells in it, takes some time. Things allways fells better when explained rationally. And my surgeant did yesterday on the phone. It worked for Alois Gloger 100 years ago without antibiotics and all that. So I am thinking more positively about it now
Hope things clear up for you too soon, Sweet. Do you have KC on both eyes or only one ?
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If it is not foggy after observing with a light; and its not red...than Id say that its just the healing process and bind your time.
It may be interested to get refracted as well?..I got refracted at my request at 3 weeks post graft and could see I think 6/18 or around there....which was amazing for me
If it is not foggy after observing with a light; and its not red...than Id say that its just the healing process and bind your time.
It may be interested to get refracted as well?..I got refracted at my request at 3 weeks post graft and could see I think 6/18 or around there....which was amazing for me
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jayuk wrote:Per
It may be interested to get refracted as well?..I got refracted at my request at 3 weeks post graft and could see I think 6/18 or around there....which was amazing for me
Hi, Jayuk
I´m not sure what you mean by refracted. You mean sight test? Checking the sight through a pin hole ? If so I did in the hospital and I saw quite much. Gave hope for the post fog period. But main concern now is to get this cornea alive, the cells taking up oxygen an function as it should.
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Yes, i have KC on both eyes, but have only ever been able to see out of my right eye, so only wear one lens. This was all ok though and for years i managed to make 6/6 vision with one eye, although now after everything this eye reads 6/12 but at least i am back at work so things are not so bad.
I had a graft done on my left eye four months and am really hoping that it will work. To me it will make a huge difference as for 29 years i have never had any vision with it except for a blur of colour and being able to see a light box! lol! the only reason i changed my mind on having it done was because of all the problems i had with the right. I kinda thought that it was time to even things up a bit and try to make my bad eye the good one!!
Thanks for the reply, and hoping that your sight is getting better.
Sweet X x X
I had a graft done on my left eye four months and am really hoping that it will work. To me it will make a huge difference as for 29 years i have never had any vision with it except for a blur of colour and being able to see a light box! lol! the only reason i changed my mind on having it done was because of all the problems i had with the right. I kinda thought that it was time to even things up a bit and try to make my bad eye the good one!!
Thanks for the reply, and hoping that your sight is getting better.
Sweet X x X
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