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Lynn White
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Postby Lynn White » Sun 27 Nov 2005 5:27 pm

Well Ken...

These concerns are one reason why perhaps going into soft lenses as a first option is preferable to jumping into RGP's - especially those that are designed to counteract eye aberrations (aspheric or aberration controlled lenses).

Glad my explanations helped..

Lynn

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Paul Morgan
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Postby Paul Morgan » Mon 28 Nov 2005 7:10 pm

Lynn White wrote:Then we are back to the problem that we are trying to correct your vision with lenses that are designed for normal eyes with regular astigmatism. So you may find your optom asking "Is your vision better in position one or two?" and you reply in frustration well.... number one is sharper but has a lot of ghosting and two has less ghosting but is blurry!

Lynn


Lynn - when I read this I realised how right you are. So often an Optom has said, which one....one or two, and I'm there thinking...well it must be one or the other, but that's kinda better because, oh but then that's good also so..... and you feel such a fool.

That's really opened my eyes, if you'll excuse the pun! :roll:

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Paul Osborne
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Postby Paul Osborne » Wed 30 Nov 2005 5:11 pm

Lynn White wrote:Ken...

optom asking "Is your vision better in position one or two?" and you reply in frustration well.... number one is sharper but has a lot of ghosting and two has less ghosting but is blurry!

Lynn


Damn! That is soooo true.

My wife sat in on my last eye test (the shoe shop round the corner didn't tempt her :-) and she thought I was taking the rise out of the optom.

Thankyou.

Paul

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Postby Lynn White » Wed 30 Nov 2005 9:28 pm

Hehe....

We do know you know .....

With KC patients I have now resorted to saying.. "Well OK... which way do you prefer to see?" which is a little better!!

Lynn

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Ali Akay
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Postby Ali Akay » Wed 30 Nov 2005 11:52 pm

A trainee optometrist asks his supervisor the best way of testing the eyes of a patient with keratoconus. The supervisor replies: "Send him to the optician down the road!"

This optometric joke demonstrates the difficulty of carrying out a sight test and arriving at a precription patient with KC is able to wear with comfort and get reasonable vision.Fairly high probabilitiy that, despite the optometrist's best efforts, the patient will return with a complaint which will result in a re-check and possibly new pair of lenses, so best your competitior deal with it as the chances are you would be making a loss on the transaction anyway!

Joking aside, when patients ask my advice on how to go on about getting glasses, I always tell them to avoid going to a high street optician on a Saturday morning when they are likely to be very busy and under pressure.Ask around for a good practitioner, independent or multiple doesnt matter as long as they are keen to help you. If possible have a chat with the optom when booking the appointment as he/she may be able to allocate extra time for the test. Accept that the result will be a compromise and dont be too hard on your optometrist if the specs arent as good as you were hoping!

Taking your prescription to eg.Specsavers after the independent optom spent a lot of time with the fine tuning would not be fair although you are within your rights.In most cases the sight test fee charged by the optometrist is well below real cost ie the practice actually makes a loss as the fee charged doesnt cover the overheads and this is supplemented by income from spectacle sales. Opticians would be able to give glasses away at cost price if they could charge a realistic fee for the appointment which is not possible for most practices.This is partly due to NHS sight test fees and there's always a chap down the road willing to do cheap or free sight test with the hope of profiting from spectacle sales.


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