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White discharge on contacts

Postby Linda Giffin » Wed 24 Nov 2004 3:00 pm

Hi All! this is my first post so if this has been answered please be patient with me. I have had KC for about 15 years now but the last year or so I have been getting a milky discharge that coats my lenses right after I put them in and red burning eyes. The DR say's it is not an infection and say's the fit is right (I don't think it is), I fight with it sometimes all day long does anyone else have this and can you tell me what it might be. Is it part of KC?? I am still in a gas perm lenses is there something better out there? Thank you in advance for any answers you may be able to give, it is making it very hard to work and do my job.

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Postby John Smith » Thu 25 Nov 2004 6:54 pm

Hello Linda, and welcome to the group.

I really don't know the answer to your question (sorry!) but I do wonder whether you have developed some sort of allergy to the wetting/soaking/cleaning solutions? Have you tried to use another brand?
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Postby Linda Giffin » Thu 09 Dec 2004 10:39 pm

Yes, I have tried many different kinds. However good news I called and got another Dr. (mine was in surgurey) lucky me. The other Dr. took the call and told me it sounded like a protein buildup and as he explained because the buildup was already there my eyes were producing more of it. He advised a good ensign solution every night and it has worked great, I have been able to see all week long. Needless to say I am a happy camper. :) Thank you.

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Postby persep » Sun 26 Dec 2004 6:27 pm

Hi,
I wonder if it's the same thing I've got.
I've just started wearing contact lenses to correct my keratoconus.
I'm on my 2nd week with RGPs and I'd like to know why after 2-3 hours (sometimes 4) of wearing them I get like dirt on them and like salty deposits. These deposits get under the lenses and irritate painfully. They also make my vision go misty.
I took I picture of the lenses, so that you could see what I mean http://usuarios.lycos.es/persep/PDR_0016.JPG
I use Menicom's Menicare Plus to store the lens (its a multi use solution) and Menicom Progent once a week (its for removing proteins). And also before inserting them I rinse them with saline solution.

Could you tell me what the doctor told you to take?
Thanks

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Postby GarethB » Mon 27 Dec 2004 5:48 pm

I use the Bausch & Lomb Boston range and also their potein remover tablets. I was told after 1 week there would be no need to use protein remover as I was getting used to the lenses and would not have worn them long enough for protein build up. However towards the end of the second week I did get a milky covering towards the end of the wera time. Only had it a few times since started using the protein remover as recomended, but only when I've been in a smoky atmosphere for an hour or so.

Lenses are cleaned with the cleaning solution which is rinsed with saline before being stored in the condidtioning solution. Prior to putting them in, I rinse the lens with fresh conditioner and make sure the lens is full of the conditioner before putting the lens in. I find should I have to move the lens in to position, it is made easier as there is a good lubricating solution between the cornea nad lens to pevent corneal damage.

Without looking at a lens under a microscope, it is hard to say what is on the lenses, but every day polution build up can affect visibility out of a lens. As said before, mine can go milky if I am in a smoky atmosphere.

Hope this may help.

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Postby Linda Giffin » Mon 27 Dec 2004 6:31 pm

Sorry, with the holiday rush I have not been on the website in a while. What he told me to do for the amount of protein that I am building is to use the protein remover every night. I have skipped one night and had a problem wearing the lenses the next day. Your picture does look real simliar to mine, mine were showing a lot of milky looking matter all over the lenses it is hard to tell from a picture but mine were just covered with the milky looking substance. Things have been so much better since I starting soaking them nightly with the drops added. He explained to me that the more that the protein builds on the lenses the more that your eyes will produce it and said that it is a viscious circle. It has really been nice to be able to see through my contacts since I starting following his advice, I just wish someone would have told me 2 years ago what it was. Good luck and let me know how you are doing. I have had KC for about 20 years now and have been lucky so far with the progression factor. Does anyone know what determines how fast and far it progresses? I have heard so many different things. Good Luck to all of you! And Happy New Year.

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Postby persep » Mon 27 Dec 2004 7:28 pm

Hi Linda,
I will use my protein remover everyday instead of weekly as it says on the box.
What I also noticed is that it starts to build up about 2.5 to 3 hours of wear.
I have an appointment with my eye doc on the 4th so I'll know for sure what it is.

About the progress of KC I think nobody really knows because it depends of each ones eye. Mine was diagnosed at 22 and it was really slow until I was 29 then it speed up and I had to change from glasses to contacts because the left eye wasn't corrected with glasses and both eyes have very big halos around lights.

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Postby persep » Tue 04 Jan 2005 8:03 pm

Hi
just keeping an update with this. I've just been to the eye doc and she told me to change solutions to Boston Advance Comfort Formula and Boston Advance Cleaner. we'll see how it works out

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Postby Rob Armstrong » Tue 04 Jan 2005 11:25 pm

I have always had problems with my lenses misting up after a while, to varying extents (went through a period where it used to happen just after I'd put all my solutions away!)

Quite early on I was told it was some sort of build-up that wasn't being removed properly, and was told to use a cleaning solution called Miraflow, which apparently is stronger stuff. (I was using the Boston Advance cleaning solution at the time).
This did seem to improve things.

On another occassion I had a doctor tell me it was caused by protein build-up, and he recommended using protein remover, but the consultant said it might have more to do with the fit of the lens, and sent me off to see the optometrist.

A few years later, I found myself getting the white sticky deposits in the corners of my eye, which would then dry out and if any got back in my eye it would seem to gather around the edge of my lens and make things very uncomfortable. This happened two consecutive summers, and I was told it could be a seasonal thing (pollen etc).

Like persep said above, I too was noticing my lenses starting to get milky after only a few hours.
I do suffer with dry eyes, and was given some Refresh drops to use when my eyes felt all gritty and/or my lens was becoming misty.

Also, I found that when you clean your lenses, if you hold them upto the light you can see if there is still any "cloudyness" to it. I used to give them another clean when this happened until it was totally clear, and this seemed to improve things the next day.

My lens tolerence kept going downhill, but luckily my grafted eye was getting better, so I don't bother with my lens anymore.


It might be worth pestering the hospital to double check that the fit of the lens is still OK, and you should definitely ask about artificial tear drops etc, as you don't realise how dry your eyes are until you wet them! Especially when the drops are cold - it's sooo refreshing.

Good luck.

Rob.

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Postby persep » Wed 05 Jan 2005 10:32 am

Hi Rob,

what you have just posted is exactly what the doctor told me. She did noticed my eyes where dried i told me to wet them 3-4 times a day with a drop of Hyluprotect which are artificial tears.

I have only tried the Bostons solutions once so i have to give them more time.

She also said the milky thing on the contact lens was an overreaction of the eye to contact lens or the solutions, that's when she told me to change them.

I showed her a printout of the picture I took, she was really surprised of it I asked me to keep it. Which she did.

I will follow your tip of checking the lens before putting in and giving them another scrub if they need it.

About the fitting she took a look at my eyes and told me they were really centered which is good, then she rubbed the inside of my lower eyelid with something like a little match stick and I started seeing everything blueish for a few seconds and she said they were looking good.

She told me to go back in six months for a check-up.


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