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Postby Lynn White » Wed 29 Mar 2006 4:16 pm

Ummm telepathy??

I take your point Andrew. What I was intending was to explain terms like hypermetropia and then ask if youall understood my explanation.. but then you could say "How do we know we are understanding it right?"

We could, of course, go on like this forever lol... So I am going to dig out my info and post it up and see what happens....

(I think I'm getting a headache!) :)

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Postby Andrew MacLean » Wed 29 Mar 2006 4:26 pm

But Lynn

That is exactly what we are always doing when we engage in conversation: that's the sheer joy of it!

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Postby Lynn White » Wed 29 Mar 2006 4:33 pm

Now you are getting philosophical on me !!

OKay.. first entry. This is stuff I had on an old site of mine so I have just pasted it into herre...

How is keratoconus discovered? How does it progress?

Keratoconus often activates during childhood and is commonly discovered during a routine eye examination.

The optometrist will often first notice an increase in astigmatism. This can be quite normal and so is monitored on subsequent eye tests.

What may happen next is that the astigmatism begins to be irregular and the general shortsightedness of the eye begins to increase rapidly - one eye usually more than the other. The optometrist may also notice that the visual acuity of the eye starts to reduce. This may well escape notice if the patient has been changing optometrists between examinations as there will be no previous record to help detection of such changes.
As the keratoconus advances, the optometrist will notice shadowing of the image when looking at the back of the eye with an ophthalmoscope - particularly in the lower half. When checking the refraction with an instrument called a retinoscope - a scissored reflex can be seen.

These distortions are caused by the cornea becoming "cone" shaped - hence the name of the condition "kerato" = cornea "conus" = cone - due to the cornea itself thinning and bulging forward under the internal pressure of the eye.

At this point, vision in spectacles is probably still not too bad. However, if the keratoconus is changing fast, the patient may well return within a few months or even weeks complaining he/she cannot get on with the glasses.

Examination shows that the prescription has changed significantly and at this point the optometrist usually refers to the GP with suspected keratoconus. Since optometrists in the UK cannot legally "diagnose", you may find them some what reticent to discuss the situation with you at this stage!

The GP refers on to the hospital consultant where other tests wil be carried out. These vary depending on the hospital but can include corneal topography and pachymetry
projected rings

mapping


Once the eyes have been assessed, then the consultant may decide one of several things. That spectacles continue to be used, contact lenses be fitted or surgery be considered. All of these options depend on how advanced the condition is.

Contact lenses are considered because they mask the irregular astigmatism and, depending on the type, may well push the cone back down - although controversially, this may result in central scarring of the cornea in later years.

For contact lenses, the patient may be referred to the hospital contact lens department, back to the original optometrist or to another specialist optomnetrist in the community - depending on geographical location and hospital policy.



Now on my site I linked words like astigmatism to my glossary, which I had actually just copied from an american site, and when I look at it now, its not that intelligible. So please tell me folks what you words you would want explaining for this one.

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Postby Lynn White » Wed 29 Mar 2006 4:36 pm

Keratoconus in the UK - patient guide

NHS referral pathways


The NHS has a set referral pathway. If you have an eye test and keratoconus is suspected, the optometrist refers you to the GP with a recommendation to refer you to an ophthalmologist. An optometrist has no direct referral right.

The GP will refer onwards and you will receive an appointment from the hospital to attend the clinic of a consultant ophthalmologist. He or she will examine you and if KC is confirmed - then you are given the diagnosis.

If contact lenses are considered suitable, you will then be referred to the contact lens department in the hospital - if it has one. In cases where there is no CL dept, you may well be referred back to an optometrist near to you for contact lens fitting. If you are eligble, then you may receive a hospital voucher towards the cost of the contact lenses.

National policy

There is no national policy because the NHS is organised into local PCT's "Patient Care Trusts" which replace earlier "Health Authorities". Each PCT arranges its own policy and contracts out to optometrists in slightly different ways. Hence you will find that treatment and management of keratoconus will vary markedly according to your postcode.

Types of contact lenses

The type of contact lens you are given again often depends on postcode. This is more due to the fact that KC is an uncommon condition and therefore experience with the condition varies widely across the country. Hospital optometrists come and go - often contact lens departments are manned by private optoms who are invited in to do clinics - so the type of lens you are fitted with may even depend on which day you are seen in the clinic as a particular optom may only be there once a week!

Optometrists vary in their experience and since much of this is gained in private practice - to a certain extent, this experience is dictated by what patients they see and the commerical viability of fitting many different types of lenses. It is simply not viable for a private practice to buy in many different fitting sets for a condition that in the high street may only be seen once every few years.

Although in a hospital environment, more fitting sets are available - again, they are dependent on the experience of the optometrists fitting them!

Also, different consultants favour different techniques and so may decide what lenses are going to be fitted and that is what the optometrist has to do - at least in the first instance. If this is unsuccessful, then they may well suggest another type of lens.


Optometrists

Optometrists are trained to "refract" - that is test the eyesight of a patient in order to obtain a "prescription". From this a pair of spectacles can be made. In the UK, optometrists also are required to examine the eye for diseases, which, under law, they can "recognise" not diagnose.

If they discover any pathology, they must refer on to the GP who then refers on to the consultant.

It is the optometrist - either in hospital or in private practice - who will fit the contact lenses after the diagnosis by the consultant.

Optometrists have no control over therapy - this is decided by the consultant who should keep the GP informed. Quite often, the optometrist does not receive any feedback from the hospital or GP.



Consultants

Consultants are medical doctors who have qualified as ophthalmologists.

Within the NHS system, if an optometrist suspects a patient has KC, they refer to the hospital via the GP. The consultant then is reponsible for diagnosis and deciding therapy. This may mean the patient is referred to the contact lens department in the hospital.

In some circumstances, the consultant may refer to a private optometrist for contact lens fitting.

It is the consultant who decides the form of therapy - not the optometrist. So, it is only the consultant who can suggest a corneal graft. They also have the sole power to register a person blind or partially sighted.


Again, this is copied directly from my old files so any commented on what needs to be expanded or left out - just shout..

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Postby Andrew MacLean » Wed 29 Mar 2006 4:37 pm

a scissored reflex can be seen

this could do with a little explanation

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Postby Andrew MacLean » Wed 29 Mar 2006 4:40 pm

I wonder whether "consultants" might not be better rendered as "consultant ophthalmologists"
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Postby Lynn White » Wed 29 Mar 2006 4:41 pm

Well yes.. I would include pics of that with John's help.. together with placedo discs and topography pictures.

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Postby Lynn White » Wed 29 Mar 2006 4:45 pm

Scribbling notes as we speak Andrew......

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Postby Sweet » Wed 29 Mar 2006 4:47 pm

Sir Andrew, wise bird that you are (and i DIDN'T say old!!) LOL! How can you be wrong??!! I mean when are you EVER wrong!!! LMAO!!! :wink: :oops: :roll:

Hehe you did make a point though. In work i talk to patients about subjects such as their diabetes, asthma etc which they may have had for years all the time and they have absolutely no idea what i am talking about. Even something as well known as this needs to be explained so that patients can understand it so it is never a bad thing to ask questions.

Lynn, are we throwing chocolate eggs at you?!! Gee this could really hurt you know and Louise may not like us raiding her secret stores!! :wink: :P

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Postby Lynn White » Wed 29 Mar 2006 5:11 pm

Well I certainly hope not as I am on a diet!

Hmm you know, this is entirely beside the point but I just noticed my short posts take up an inordinate amount of space because of the length of the test chart avatar!

Maybe an avatar of a trial frame would take up less space ? Or maybe an ophthalmoscope!


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