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Postby Mark B » Mon 30 Jan 2006 11:24 am

Hi all.

I am still new to this contact lens lark and am having a bit of trouble.

I am now on my forth set in 3 months, the first three were just so unconfortable i could not cope for more than a couple of hours.

I now have rose K lenses, these are much more comfortable but I now have different problems.

1. When I put the lenses in they sting for the first five mins. this never happened with other lenses and i am using the same solutions/cleaning regime.

2. I seen to get air bubbles under the left lens in paticular. these appear at random and for five mins everthing is just a blur.

3. I have trouble getting the lenses out at the end of the day. With the small RGP's i had before i could just hold my top eyelid tight, blink hard and they would pop out. if i try this with the rosek's they just disapear around the side of my eyeball. The only way i can seem to get them out is with a little plunger.

Has anyone had these issues/ any sugestions?

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Postby jayuk » Mon 30 Jan 2006 11:40 am

Mark

Good to see you have new lenses!

Referring to your issues

1) There is a slight chance that your eyes may be sensitive to the material, or the fit could be over bearing on the cornea...and one possible reason why this stops after a few minutes is because the cornea adjusts itself to the lens....

2) Have you tried putting a lubricant in that eye BEFORE you insert the lens? This helps a great deal both for the lens and also for the eye

3) This is quite common with the RoseK as it kind of sticks to the cornea..in my experience. One thing that worked for me was to

a) look down, so you are bending over and head facing the floot
b) using your Index finger, push back and slightly upwards at the side of the eye (other side of the nose) and then blink whilst you are doing this...the lens should unsettle and come out....

Hope that helps

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Postby Mark B » Mon 30 Jan 2006 11:50 am

Thanks for that I will try your method later and see if that works. I dred to think what people think while i am swaring and contorting trying to get the things out.

I use systane about ten mins before i put them in and again once they are out.

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Postby GarethB » Mon 30 Jan 2006 1:26 pm

Mark,

This thread may be of interest;

http://www.keratoconus-group.org.uk/for ... .php?t=923

Like you I was having real trouble with lens comfort and tolerance.

1) Lens stinging may be your eye is getting used to the new style of lens.

2) I get air under my right lens which is theone I have had trouble with. I find several really hard blinks gets rid of it, close your eyelids and squeeze them tightly shut. Sometimes I have to half clsoe my eye and gently massage one side of the lens removes the bubble.

3) Using a little plunger is find, in the literature that came with my lenses it is one o the recoemnded methods due to the tight lens fit.

Have a look at the other thread, it tooke me six months of re lens fitting before I started to look at an alternative. In 1 month I reversed the preveous six months problems, but it took finding a new stratergy with eye drops and this meant the original lens was the best. I have gone from a couple hours poor vision and discomfort before having to remove them to a combined lens wear of 15 hours regularly and yesterday for the first time in the past 12 months, I wore them for 12 hours straight !!! I had completely forgotten I had my lenses in they were so comfortable.

Good luck

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Postby Carol Vines » Mon 30 Jan 2006 4:42 pm

reading this post with great interest

i too have been prescribed a rosek lens, been trying to get a new lens for my right eye since july last year and noone of the fits have been any good; either fall out, catch on the eyelid, scratch the cornea.

so my optician ordered a test kit of different lens which we tried, then from that he ordered the rosek lens that was supposedly the best fit. wore it for 2 weeks and was just like mark couldn't get it out, stung when putting in, also vision was very strange as like when you put someone else's glasses on.

anyway when i went back last friday he said there was an airbubble under the lens so has now gone away scratching his head on what to do. said the lens should have centralised on the steep part of my cornea but this hadn't happened in my case and the lens was sitting too low.

after reading gareth's answer i'm wondering if i could have "rubbed" the bubble out :oops:
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Postby GarethB » Mon 30 Jan 2006 6:35 pm

Carol,

From my one off self experiment, the only time I manage to rub the bubble out is when the cornea is what I think properly hydrated and lubricated which is what the Systane drops do.

I never thought I had dry eyes, but the conclusion the otom and dermatology agreed with me on was that the lens was sticking to the cornea because it was too dry.

The process of locking moisture in the eye was long and slow but now when a lens is not on the right place although on the cornea covering the iris. i can massage it o help it centralise on the right part of the cone. Sometimes the inside edge lifts and I get another bubble, but once the lens is in the right place, hard blinks to squeeze the lens on the cornea removes it. I must admit, the lens is more comfortable when I first put it in and it doeas come out a lot easier.

No more sucking noise when I take the lens out as if it is held by suction of some kind. My eye lid is more comfortable too as the drops lubricate the inside of the eye lids too.
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Postby Mark B » Tue 31 Jan 2006 9:13 am

Gareth

Thats a post and a half!

I absolutly agree that humidity and systane both make a bit difference to lens ware time.

With systane a can cope most of the day with my right lens but only for 3 or 4 hours without.

My left is a different matter. With or without systane as soon as any lens i have tryed is in i get a dull ache in my eye not the lids. This gets worse over about a hour and then i just have to get the thing out. No lens that i have tryed is ever comfortable in my left eye, they are not just uncomfortable they hert.

I am sure there are more lenses to try it just gets a bit demoralising.

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Postby Carol Vines » Tue 31 Jan 2006 9:31 am

hi Gareth thats brought a big grin to my face thinking of the "sucking noise" as you call it when removing my lens, its amazing how tight the little blighters can stick to your eye when trying to remove them at the end of the day but don't they move easily when you don't want them to, bit of wind, in an important meeting and out it comes :)

i've read before about systane but have never tried it because it says not to be used with contact lens, how long after putting the drops in can i put my lenses in safely. i did read your diary thread, well done for keeping such good details, but i'm still wary of using systane.

i do suffer with dry eyes normally and now my body's decided to start going through the menopause early its making my eyes even worse. :oops:
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Postby GarethB » Tue 31 Jan 2006 10:48 am

Hi Carol,

The Systane literature is poorly worded, whit it means is you need to put drops in without the lens in. This is so it provides a lubricating layer evenly over the cornea.

As you say they are a tight fit, so the drops find it extremely hard to get under the lens for comfort, so you end up with a thick film on the lens that ruins what vision we have.

I have found put the drops in, blink lots while moving my eye ball oall over to get a good distribution of drops over the eye and eye lids. Dab the area around the eye where it leaks, otherwise the lids get so slippery you can not get a lens in again. By the time I have done this, I can put a lens in, do the usual, look down for a minute to let it settle while blinking lots to help get the tears round the lens and when I look up, my vision is pretty much as it should be.

The whole process for me including washing hands and tidying the first aid room at work once I have finished takes about 10 - 15 minutes.

The new Systane information leaflet says you can use the drops as required. The earlier leaflet specified three times per day. Under medical guidelines, to allow more frequent use, clinical data has to show that more frequent use in both safe and beneficial.

Hope this helps.
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Postby Carol Vines » Tue 31 Jan 2006 11:10 am

thanks for that info Gareth i'm going to try some systane drops and see how i get on got to be worth a go :)
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