UK Keratoconus Self-Help and Support Association

Nobody has noticed the tiny tweak to the site!

With my seriously reduced vision of late, it soon became apparent that the scroll bars on the forum were near enough invisible, and needed the contrast increasing.

So I did... and injected some colour at the same time. The bar itself is the same shade of red as the centre of the page footer / main dividers, which is derived from the red of the dot in the KC logo. The browser makes its own colours for the other bits. I've noticed that the scrollbar track is now a certain Welsh nurse's favourite colour!

The colours are probably not affected if you don't use Internet Explorer, so don't panic if you can't see red (or pink!)

I'd noticed, but I thought it was just my computer being weird as per usual! Doh. It's great though -is there a way of setting internet explorer so it will do it for all sites?

John

Using safari there is no change. I have booted IE and used it, but as I never used it before I hve nothing to which to compare the new scroll bars. Nonethe less, I sincerely congratulate you on the way things look today.

Andrew

I did notice, but feared comment may result in sarcastic comment from the other reprobates that frequent this site

What I can't understand is why Safari makes the site look different to IE. After all they are both 'reading' what is stored at various locations remote from my computer, so I'd have expected them to show exactly the same thing.

but it is not so.

Still I am happy to use the Mac OS embedded browser.

Andrew

i use firefox...

Andrew,

You need to think of the browser as a translating program - it translates from the arcane languages of HTML and CSS into something that (hopefully) looks pretty and is intelligible.

But consider two humans whose jobs are to translate Russian to English. Their "output" would both mean the same thing, but the actual words used, accent and inflection could be very different.

Browsers are just the same.

In this case, the CSS code requests that the "scrollbar colour" should be a particular shade of red. Now, some older browsers don't know about CSS at all, so will ignore my request. Others, like Safari, will understand CSS, but they were never taught the particular word "scrollbar-color", so they'll pay attention to other requests, but ignore that one. The ability to change the way the scroll bar looks is something invented, not by the lovely people writing stanards at the IETF (Internet Engineering Task Force) or the W3C (World-wide-web consortium), but by... Microsoft.

Microsoft's plans for world domination include tempting designers to use "cool" features that only render as the designer intended in Internet Explorer. Eventually, pages may contain so much IE-specific stuff that they'll not render intelligibly in other browsers, so the users migrate to IE, and Bill Gates is happy. And the remainder of us are not.

Fortunately, the site has been designed to "gracefully degrade" on browsers which do not support all the features available, so everyone stays happy

Vic wrote:is there a way of setting internet explorer so it will do it for all sites?

Well, as it happens, yes there is! And here's how...

• Cut and paste the following lines into a new file in Notepad
  

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  body {
   scrollbar-face-color: #FF7373;
     scrollbar-track-color: #FFCCCC;   
   scrollbar-arrow-color: #000000;
}
• Save the file somewhere on your hard disk. Call the file "pink.css". Don't let Notepad add a ".txt" extension if you can help it.
• Go into Internet Explorer: Tools menu, then Internet Options.
• At the bottom-right of the options window on the General tab is a button marked "Accessibility". Press it.
• Tick "Format documents using my style sheet", and enter the file name of the file you saved above.
• Click OK, OK and you're all done!

Let me know if you need any help with this. You can even play with the colours if you can work out the hex colour codes

Ooh it worked! Thanks!

Hehe i did notice as it was red!! LMAO!!! But then i have recently changed Yahoo to the same colour so maybe i thought it was to do with that!! Hehe!

Looks nice though!!

Sweet X x X