Trek eyes

[Andrew MacLean]

They see what they are looking at but fail to discern the soul

[Lynn White]

Ahhh so are you saying you can discern the soul with human eyes?

[Sweet]

Andrew she isn't married but you are so don't ask or she'll grab you!!! LOL!!! And visors are dam hard i would imagine when trying to put eye drops in!! LMAO!!!

Sweet X x X

[Andrew MacLean]

The soul of others is not discerned by the eye, but by a movement on one's own soul. The whole point of the Borg is that their cerebral process is so heightened by their link to the brain of every other Borg that the noise makes it impossible to touch the silent place and be aware even of ones own soul.

This was why Piccard was so positive in "first Contace" that it was not only possible but right to contemplate the killing of members of hiw own crew who had begun the process of ascimilation.

I can' believe that I am sitting here on a Monday morning tapping out trekological hoo ha

Andrew

[Lynn White]

Well thats because Trekky stuff does actually try and cover philosphical subjects in understandable way.

I suspected this had wandered away from eyes! I take issue with your take on Picards viewpoint. He himself had successfully been recovered from the Borg and we know from the episode "Hugh" that even longstanding Borg could regain their sense of self. Therefore he was denying others the chance he had to regain their souls if you like.

On the other hand, it was a military decision as every conversion meant more troops turned against the Enterprise.

On the third hand, his decision was emotionally charged because of his own experiences and he should have been more rational as a captain...

And I think I am running out of hands here!

Its a very interesting way to start a Monday morning!

Lynn

[Andrew MacLean]

Three hands?

[Lynn White]

Well only when I am in a multi-dimensional universe!! In plain old four dimensional space you only see two hands hehe!

[Andrew MacLean]

I am not sure that it is proper to talk about 4-dimensional space. String theory expresses it differently: 3+1, 9+1, 11+1 and even 25+1, with time being recognized as similar but not identical in nautre to the ordinary dimensions of space.

time is of course a variable funtion of all the other dimensions, and is, therefore not a dimension in its own right.

The illustration, below (from Wickipedia) shows the Interaction in the subatomic world: world lines of pointlike particles in the Standard Model or a world sheet swept up by closed strings in string theory



Andrew

[Lynn White]

Ahhh yes but that is only if you are talking from a human perspective! Bajoran mythology is spiritual but also based on wormhole aliens who have no concept of linear time. Therefore their concept of fourth dimensiality is somewhat different and it is that to which I was referring... as in space and time become indistinguishable within a quantum singularity,...

But all this talk of higher quantum mechanics has got me working up a thirst, so I suggest we repair to the bar to continue this discussion... Mine's an Altarian Sunset, shaken, not stirred!

[John Smith]

Ooh, thanks Andrew. I'll have a Romulan Ale!