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Postby Sweet » Wed 19 Apr 2006 5:58 pm

Hhmm not a big trekkie here sorry guys! My twin sister was completely obsessed with it though and still has her whole collection as she can't bear to part with it! LOL!!

I didn't really follow the old series but the Next Generation was quite good. The movies are good as well, though i think that i would only watch them once! LOL!!

Now if 'A & E' looked and acted like sick bay i would be well worried! :shock: I don't think that tricorders would help anyone who was having a cardiac arrest, no matter how much of a trekkie they are!!! :wink: :P

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Postby Louise Pembroke » Wed 19 Apr 2006 8:06 pm

But Sweet, you have to use all this outdated equipment like xrays but with a handheld scanner it does the same good as an xray/CAT/MRI!!!!!!!!
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Postby Lynn White » Fri 21 Apr 2006 5:49 pm

Gul Dukat had a wicked sense of humour and a wonderful habit of pointing out the weak point in any argument!! Brilliant how he could change sides at the drop of a Bajoran earing!

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Postby Andrew MacLean » Sat 22 Apr 2006 2:06 pm

Dukat never switched sides: he was always on his own side. In the meantime he revised his strategic alliances! :D

Just like real life, really!
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Postby Louise Pembroke » Sat 22 Apr 2006 3:51 pm

sadly yes
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Postby Lynn White » Sat 22 Apr 2006 9:47 pm

Andrew, I bow to your superior analysis lol!! I was being semantically lax.

To be more serious, the exploration of Gul Dukat's character actually highlighted the whole "ocupation" mentality, having it obvious roots in WW2 with Nazi occupation. This is what ST does quite well and is why I do like it, as I am a keen historian as well. The whole Cardassian arc had echoes of WW2 with the "Maquis" resistance which then spilled over to Voyager. Its a neat way of teaching history.

The most poignant episode, I think, concerning Dukat was when Kira Nerys travelled back in time to witness her mother, whom she had always thought if as being as resistance heroine, becoming Dukat's mistress in order that she, as a child, was fed and looked after. Nerys could not come to terms with it at all, as she had grown up thinking in terms of black and white, Cardassians evil, Bajorans a force for good.

To all those that knock ST as nerdy... it does actually teach people about history and philosphy by way of fables... just like Hans Christian Anderson etc

However, its origin in the US makes it so PC its hard to swallow. Thats why English Sci Fi is so much more fun as it does not take itself so seriously!

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Postby Louise Pembroke » Sat 22 Apr 2006 9:49 pm

I love it all!
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Postby Andrew MacLean » Sun 23 Apr 2006 8:02 am

Lynn

I agree with what you write. In the original cast Star Trek you could just about read off Kennedy's Cabinet in the crew.

I enjoyed the way the explored the tensions of occupation, and am not surprized that the Afghanistan and later Iraq conflicts set up these dilemmas so poignantly that the various star trek series that were running began to run out of steam. it is easier to explore tensions native to historical conflicts than it is to look at tensions current in the lives of cast crew and audience.

In literature and theatre the exploration of current conflicts has always been restricted to the art house fringe.

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Postby Lynn White » Sun 23 Apr 2006 9:03 am

Ahh yes...

Well it all gets too close for comfort for politicians doesnt it? Exploration of those themes is fine in historical context but becomes criticism when related to a current conflict. Writers have to rather carfeful!!

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Postby John Smith » Sun 23 Apr 2006 11:21 am

Of course, "we" (well, the BBC) are also over sensitive in places... there was an episode of TNG (in series 3 IIRC) which was not originally shown by the Beeb because of a terrorist storyline.

At one point, Data went into a babbling mode, and made reference to the Northern Ireland situation.

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