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Postby Andrew MacLean » Tue 04 Apr 2006 6:24 am

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I know what you mean. When I used to travel to Sweden, I was amazed that much of their television was in English. The people all seem to be bi-lingual (at least, with excellent English as part of their linguistic profile).

This bothered me because I worked hard to learn Swedish (which my Norwegian nephews love to hear me speak .. they then do a Muppets "Swedish Chef" routine :oops: ).

I think its more than just Scandanavia, though. Did you hear that the President of France had stormed out of an EU meeting because a French business expert had insisted on speaking to the heads of government in English.

We have already lost a lot under the weight of cultural homogenization. Scotloand used to celebrate Christmas on January 6. This date has been all but lost, although my diary last year did call that date "Epiphany or Old Christmas".

Almost everybody in the UK,if asked to describe a traditional Christmas dinner would describe an American Thanksgiving Dinner. But then, we have lots of Scandanavian words in our common vocabulary, thanks to the cultural influence of the Vikings who came visiting us a little over a thousand years ago.

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John, I just realized that Per had promoted you at the top of this string to "Chef Modreator Long John Silver" :D neat title!
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Postby Emma_Marie » Tue 04 Apr 2006 8:08 pm

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Just seeing you mention the 6th of January brought back so many memories - when i was little (and living in Co. Meath) we celebrated Christmas on the 25th Dec. Then on the 6th of Jan we had 'Little Christmas' Santa used to come all over again - it was great! How things have changed!

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Postby Andrew MacLean » Tue 04 Apr 2006 9:03 pm

The Scottish and Irish churches used to date Christmas on the Eastern Callander. They always held Christmas and Epiphany together at Jan 5 while the rest of the church separated the festivals giving the "twelve days of Christmas.

We all became very anglicized in the 20th century, but I am impressed that someone as young as you are can remember keeping Christmas on Jan 6.
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Postby John Smith » Tue 04 Apr 2006 10:42 pm

Some friends of mine have very lucky children... they have an English father and a Spanish catholic mother.

So they spend December 25th in Bristol and get all their Christmas presents. They then fly to Spain, and do it all over again on January 6th!
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What a fascinating discussion!

Postby Annmarie Miles » Thu 06 Apr 2006 7:49 pm

As an Irish girl all this flag and national day stuff is very interesting.

Living in Wales i miss my day off on March 17th. Ithink we should have St David's Day as a bank holiday....

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Postby Andrew MacLean » Fri 07 Apr 2006 6:17 am

Annmarie

I think I have seen an Irish flag ... perhaps in the EU section.

By the way, I agree about the idea of having St Davis's day as a holiday in Wales, St Andrew's here in Scotland and St George's day in England
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