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Postby GarethB » Fri 24 Mar 2006 8:56 am

Aaaaaahhhhhhh Jim lad..... No I means Paul lad, welcome backImage

Just a little something to go with the rest of your get up from yer friends :D
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Postby Paul Osborne » Fri 24 Mar 2006 10:53 am

ok back from the outpatients.


Consutant muchas happy.

Managed to make out the top line of the board unaided.

:-) :-) :-)

Looking through a fog with it at the moment as I am waiting for the water to cool so I can clean it.

Feeling very sensitive to light and I think the aneasthetic is wearing off as its starting to feel rather sore and gritty now.

Also feel knackered so am going to rest.

Thanks for the supprt.

I am really really chuffed to bits at the moment.

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Postby Paul Osborne » Fri 24 Mar 2006 10:54 am

GarethB wrote:Aaaaaahhhhhhh Jim lad..... No I means Paul lad, welcome backImage

Just a little something to go with the rest of your get up from yer friends :D


Gareth,

Thanks!

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Postby jayboi2005 » Fri 24 Mar 2006 11:15 am

Can someone answer me a question on aneasthetic. Or maybe Paul you could tell me, where you sick at all when you came around? Because i have had General twice now and was sick both times after, and i have had Local around 25 times LOL but im never sick. :roll:

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Postby Carol Vines » Fri 24 Mar 2006 11:26 am

hi paul

glad to hear its all going well so far, have a restful weekend :)
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Postby Sweet » Fri 24 Mar 2006 11:27 am

Hey there! Anaesthetic is different with everyone so it is hard to say. I had a general and felt completely fine though some get very sick and sometimes a headache.

You shouldn't feel any bad effects with a local as it is a completely different drug. It is lignocaine whereas a general is usually propovol.

Lignocaine takes a while to work in numbing the area which is why having minor surgery is ok with it but it can wear off quite quick unless injected again. And propovol is a drug that can put you to sleep instantly but when stopped you will immediately wake up! Because it goes straight to your brain as it enters your bloodstream it can make you very sick whereas if you were going to be sick with a local it would take a long while for it to work it's way through the muscle into your blood.

Generals are administered through a vein going into your circulation, so any side effects would be instant. A local is not the same as it only numbs the tissues around where they are working and only slightly enters your system. You shouldn't get any breathing problems or bad effects from it unless you are allergic to it!

Nearly everyone is ok with a local, but with a general you can get a lot more side effects which is why they ask you so many questions before you have one, and indeed what reactions you have ever had with one before. Vomiting is the most common side effect and most will have it so doctors do not worry about it unless it is severe as it wears off quick quickly when you have recovered from the anaesthetic.

This is why nurses tell you in recovery to take deep breaths to try to flush the drug out of your system and this also explains why those who have entonox (gas and air) can get sick! If the vomiting is bad doctors can prescibe an anti-emetic, a drug which can help prevent nausea such as metoclopramide (maxalon) or cyclizine to help. Normally though they would be wary of this as it is a common side effect which will wear off and they do not want to give your body more drugs if they can help it! When the anaesthetist comes to see you before your surgery they are more concerned with any bad reactions to a general such as swelling and convulsions etc along with any medical history which can affect your breathing. Asthmatics are monitored closely especially if they have been in ICU before as well as epileptics who aren't well controlled on drugs.

Hoping that helps, nurse training may have it's uses! Sweet X x X
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Postby ChrisK » Fri 24 Mar 2006 11:53 am

Hooray Paul,

I'm delighted that you're back and things are going so well. :D

Take lots of rest and enjoy those talking books.

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Postby jayuk » Fri 24 Mar 2006 12:06 pm

Paul

Thats really good news!!

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Postby Andrew MacLean » Fri 24 Mar 2006 4:08 pm

Good on ya Paul!

Jayboi

Modern General Anaesthetics are not as difficult as older ones. The type most commonly used in British operating theatres was developed in Scotland, and the antedote that is given at the beginning of the 'wake-up' procedure makes the molocule of the original anaesthetic completely break down in the body.

This means that there ought to be no residual anaesthetic in your system as you recover.

But as Sweet says, after that things vary from individual to individual.

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Postby GarethB » Fri 24 Mar 2006 4:37 pm

My wife gets ill after a general anasthetic.

I remember in August 1998, she had to have an operation on her birthday. There was I sat at her bedside as she woke up, she sat up, looked at me all pale and interesting, told me she loved me and threw up all over me :(

That was the only and only time her love was expressed in that way.
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