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Postby GarethB » Tue 14 Mar 2006 3:33 pm

My families attitude to death is one of celebration.

Death is by no means an end to existance, but an end of a chapter.

The spirit goes to a higher plane of existance and lives on in the hearts and minds of everyone that person touched throughout their lives.

If that person is rememberd and stories/annecdotes of that persons life are told from generation to generation, it could be argued that the memory becomes imortal.

The spirit I beleive is imortal anyway.

Now leave my self open to critisism regarding the use of the word imortal :D
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Postby Andrew MacLean » Tue 14 Mar 2006 4:04 pm

The idea of the person beoming immortal in the memory of the community is very Viking. this is why they developed the Sagas.

In an odd way I think that most people are indifferent to their own death, but get quite anxious about the death of the people they love. My death is not an event in my life, but my wife's death, or the deaith of either of my children ... That's different.

Still we'd celebrate the life through which we had found blessings, and give thanks for the faith that the loved one has gone to a place more wonderful that we can possibly imagine.

Then, of course,we'd get on with missing he people who had gone from us. There is no parpdox here. I miss my friends who have gone to australia, but I hope to see them again in time. I miss my friends who have died, although I hope to meet them again in eternity.

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Postby GarethB » Tue 14 Mar 2006 6:32 pm

Andrew,

To be honest it is only when I am having problems in my life that I miss my mum, but once the familly start talking about her again I no longer miss her because I feel she is actually still with me!
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Postby rosemary johnson » Tue 14 Mar 2006 7:04 pm

I suspect that the experience of going through a transplant operation, not to mention the catastrophic events and/or steady deterioration that made it necessary, and the recovery process, is probably enough to change most people.
To a greater or lesser extent, and in more or less subtle ways
By the time you've come thorugh the other side, you're a survivor!
The stress and worry about possible rejections, etc, can go on for some time, so you're still surviving.
ANd in the process, you've probably come across more of the medical profession and health service than most people want to encounter in a life time.

ANd the donors? - are public=spirited enoug to want to donate (enough to fill in donor cards, registry forms, and tell their family and friends their wishes), and come from families who share their wish to donate.
And come from families who are public-spirited enough, and have the presence of mind, to remember to think of "donations for transplants" at a time of great stress and sorrow (when a loved one is dying), and are articulate enough to find the right people in the medical establishment to say it to, and fill in the right forms.

I suspect there's enough there to make at least some donor/recipient pairs become a little more alike.
There's also the psychological effect that donor families must subconsciously be looking for similarities, because they'd like to see their dead loved one's organs go to someone who's like their relative, and who their relative would like and find good company.

As for the vegetarian getting the intense cravings for McDonalds, this proably says more about hospital food than anything else!

(ore seriously : if you're recovering from a spell in hospital, and major surgery, your nutritional needs are different from during your previous "normal" life. SO your needs for food - and hence the types of food you'll crave - will be different too. Craving McNuggets suggests a need for high protein content as the body rebuilds its tissues, and the high energy content of fatty foods.)

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mmm

Postby Geraldine » Tue 14 Mar 2006 7:56 pm

I actually remember reading in a magazine a girlfriend donated her kidney to her boyfriend and he started getting her fondness for junk food when he never had pre kidney transplant

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Postby Andrew MacLean » Tue 14 Mar 2006 10:12 pm

Death is nothing at all.
I have only slipped away into the next room.
I am I and you are you.
Whatever we were to each other;
That we are still.
Call me by my old familiar name.
Speak to me in the easy way you always used.
Put no difference into your tone.
Wear no forced air of solemnity or sorrow.
Laugh as we always laughed.
At the little jokes we always enjoyed together.
Play, smile, think of me, pray for me.
Let my name be ever the household word that it always was.
Let it be spoken without effort.
Without the ghost of a shadow in it.
Life means all that it ever meant.
It is the same as it ever was.
There is absolute unbroken continuity.
What is death but a negligible accident?
Why should I be out of mind.
Because I am out of sight?
I am waiting for you for an interval.
Somewhere very near.
Just around the corner.
All is well..
Nothing is past; nothing is lost.
One brief moment and all will be as it was before .
How we shall laugh at the trouble of parting when we meet again!.
 
Canon Henry Scott-Holland, 1847-1918, Canon of St Paul's Cathedral
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Postby GarethB » Tue 14 Mar 2006 10:52 pm

Andrew,

You have just made my day, I lost that piece of verse long ago and it has been read at every funeral when a member of my familly has passed on.

Thankyou.
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Postby ChrisK » Wed 15 Mar 2006 12:01 am

My neighbour is refusing to pop round after my operation as she is convinced I'll be getting x-ray vision.

As Paul is next in line though perhaps we should keep a close eye on any changes he may go through.

As he lives close to me and with Canterbury being a rather small and conservative city, I'll sure notice if he goes the transgendered route. :wink:

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Postby Andrew MacLean » Wed 15 Mar 2006 7:11 am

Gareth

It is lovely, isn't it. I often read it at funerals.

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Postby Paul Osborne » Wed 15 Mar 2006 1:27 pm

Andrew:
that is loverly - thanks.

ChrisK:
bwahahahahahahahahahaha

though am a bit annoyed at the moment, my optician called, new sunglasses have arrived and the manufacturers have stuffed up the right lens, so I *may* get them early next week.

grrrr

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